A shame for sure. I never experienced any 'toxicity' and was always happy with the experience. Ellie always kept the whip handy and wasn't afraid to use it....the room was well run. Why many others left is confusing...here it is, 10:45 on Monday morning, and just 22 users...none of them chatting. I'm here in MOsquitoville hoping for some sort of rebound. Cheers, folks...and season's greetings...all the best Ellie (k)<<<muffins