Nothing here is meant as a personal attack, so please read with an open mind before you decide to respond.......
Judas is right in one aspect: The books haven't changed. Haigan is right in another: Gor has "evolved" all right, but certainly not for the better.
"Old Gor" is gone? I think a better analogy is "Respectable Gor" is gone. "This" Gor has become Gen-X and Millenial Gor.
It's a Gor that welcomes dishonored characters back with open arms, back to their same homes, because rules don't matter here.
It's a place where Honor no longer matters. Someone can't keep their word? Eh, no worries. Tell us your tale of woe, and we'll pat you on the back and tell you it's ok, here's your safe space, since rules don't matter here.
Dualling? No problem, you can play that part in different areas. Better yet, bring back that shelved character from 10 years ago, no one will notice. Rules don't matter here.
It's a place were more sparring takes place in the blogs, than in the arena or the pits. Hammers wield more strength than steel.
Knowledge? Who needs it? There's no need to read the books, here's a few websites and some quotes.
Want to be something? Here's some tags. Don't worry about training, just put them on and you can be instant “insert your Caste of choice here". We'll even create a place where you can do it without any training or oversight. Just go for it, no one will care. Standards be damned!
Plenty of people came to the Gorean Community Group to describe what they would do to get back to where we could be. There were some great ideas there. Did everyone agree? No, we didn't, but we still created the Trading Post to implement those ideas and give it a chance. Who was the first naysayer? None other than Haigan. The people who showed up regularly were Judas, Iskander, and myself. We're making the attempt, what happened to the rest of you?
No one cares about the Gorean Community as a whole. No one cares about the principles or authenticity of Gor any longer. You're all happy in your safe places. You make it up as you go.
And that's a shame.
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Eh scuzz me, I go to the Trading Post regularly so get my name up there in lights!! Lol
I See the crèche has let out early again
Last night as we were speaking Bashir, you asked Me what My thoughts were about Your post, well I couldn't put My feelings into the right words, but I think I figured it out. Now please keep in mind this is MY personal take and opinion and no one has to like them but You did ask though My response is long enough I will post it under My own blog.
I do miss some of the crazy people I used to Gor with, many I do not. Too many just didn't follow any of the rules. I probably should have been stabbed in the neck a few times but no one did. But I had some fun as a Phy once upon a time not that I ever really found much opportunity to do much of it.
You wouldn't happen to have been Siren, would you, Red?
More on topic: The efforts are misguided at best, and conscious efforts in futility at worst. The ship didn't just sink some years back. It caught fire, sank, and then got splintered by many collisions on its way to the deepest parts of obscurity, all the while various undertows spread pieces of it like ashes in the wind. What you're describing, Bashir, is nothing new. The only real difference between what you're talking about up here three days ago, and what I was talking about over six years
Ago is that the head count on those who would, and should set an example is somewhere between slim and none. Every few years this idea for meetings, and a central meeting place, and one room, one Gor was floated. Every few years we tried it. Every few years we held votes. Every few years it went nowhere because the people who voted on the losing side wouldn't uphold anything that they didn't agree with anyway, and thus nothing really changed. Then people began leaving. More left. And then more.
Then something miraculous happened! The numbers started growing again, right around 2010-2011ish. The problem is they were the wrong people coming back. The ones who liked dualling, and onlineisms, and celebrating ignorance of the books that saying things like "well when I started out this is how I was taught" was good enough for the rest of them. If any of you really want things to be better you all need to take a real good look at where you all are and what you all do in Gor, and for Gor.
As they say in the service "shit rolls down hill". When the people in charge stop setting the example, and stop enforcing accountability then the entire operation starts to slip. The men aren't acting like men, so the women stop acting like women, and then the slaves stop acting like slaves. Eventually you get left with everyone going through the motions, nobody believing in what they do, and nobody caring if it measures up. From an outside perspective this whole thing is just soft.
The good fight was fought and lost a long time ago. Even rats know when to abandon a sinking ship. Why are you all still trying to piece it back together with popsicle sticks and paper machete when many of you can't even remember what it looked like in the first place?
/rant
No I was Karima.
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