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It's good to have the discussion kyna. Personally I chose to join a home because I believe in the people there. ... So yea I thinks it's natural that may happen. But not with everyone. The good news is there is variety in homes here (at least a bit). And not everyone will choose ppl from their home. Ex. Wamph nominating auralee. and I agree to the one person from each home... So long as the homes are at least somewhat open and a bit active.
I understand that. And it's not to say I don't see qualities in the people you nominated that would make them good for the council. Just trying to level it a bit. I do also like Airlia's idea of homes open during the week and Gortopia on the weekends. It provides a nice balance.
As far as homes that are not active, I think some consideration needs to be made at least initially. For example, there are some places that have active role players even if their own home isn't open as much. There are some homes, for example, that are open now and then, but no one else comes in and so they close the home. I don't think it is fair to penalize those role players and deny them representation just because people don't travel or stop in to visit.
For homes that truly haven't been open in a long time, perhaps a waiting period of a week for their home to become active again is in order if they want representation on the council. I don't think making someone waiting longer than that is a good idea because the goal is trying to get more people legitimately involved and it might put them off if they have to do longer without being welcomed as a part of it. Please don't think I'm trying to make the rules either. Just discussion.
How can you expect people who cannot run their home to now run all of Gor. Nothing has worked in the past. Gor will never be as great as it once was. It will be another popularity contest with a select few trying to run everything. People like me will not get a chance because we are not in the in crowd. A lot of people here are leeches. They attach themselves with what they perceive as the people running the show. A lot of times I come online and I am like why bother with the effort anymore.
Thiery, was it you that said "Old Gor, New Gor? How about Gor? Just that." Gor was Gor. Kyri, I think there are people here willing to try, but I do understand what you're saying also. And to Judas, I sincerely apologize for what this has become today...
I nominate myself for representing the Baker's caste. I think it needs to have a mix of high caste and low caste. I have a home stone but many are away or do not come around as much. So having a representative from a home might make it a bit difficult. I say one from each caste, therefore we get a good blend. I don't know many of you all from here outside of what I had r/ped with since coming. I'm pretty neutral in knowing the pasts verse the now, and future.
Shainaa, I think that would be too difficult to do one from each caste because again we could run into the problem of people who aren't really represented because the caste set of Buzzen Gor is pretty limited, and those chosen could be all from one home. There's not nearly the diversity of castes in role play than are found in the books.
No. It wasn't me. It Was bana. She's smarter than me. She's spot on though. Gor is Gor. If this keeps up though we'll be serving the slaves and they will be lower case free.
Perhaps you are right Kyna. Just let me know when its decided and what I can do to help. I can only offer some r/p scenerios really. I've got a pretty big imagination. I read LOTs of fictional books to keep my mind fresh with new ideas that can be incorporated into the gorean life. Good luck with this council if it happens.
Kyri, I doubt referring to people as leeches is the best way to inspire confidence in them to nominate you for anything. None of this is about popularity contests for anyone, but people will vote for those people who they feel would offer something to the task. If that is people that you perceive to be popular, then it will be, and if it isn't then it won't be but it isn't fair to criticise people for the choices they make. The purpose of voting is so everyone gets a chance to put forward ...
their opinion and not to have it questioned or belittled. I also agree that it should be limited to one person from each home to keep an even balance. Maybe each home who wants to participate should post their member lists and everyone gets to pick someone from each home. Those wth the most go forward. On the flip side, I hear Donald Trump is wanting to be nominated too, he wants to build a wall to keep out everyone south of Turia.
I disagree as it takes away the vote from the people and the idea behind a council chosen by the people is that it consists of who the people feel is best to do so. But that's just My opinion on the back of a Brexit
I'm not disputing the idea of democratic process, but even here in the US we can only vote for people based on where we live by deciding who we think will do the best job for our city, district, state, or what have you. In the case of the council, I don't know that I want my representation decided for me based on voting from outside my home. It puts small homes at a disadvantage. And Brexit was a good move.
raises hand to ask a question.... um excuse me. but why can't Everyone just run their home the way they want and if they visit elsewhere follow that homes rules?
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It's good to have the discussion kyna
. Personally I chose to join a home because I believe in the people there. ... So yea I thinks it's natural that may happen. But not with everyone. The good news is there is variety in homes here (at least a bit). And not everyone will choose ppl from their home. Ex. Wamph nominating auralee. and I agree to the one person from each home... So long as the homes are at least somewhat open and a bit active.
Of course this will exclude those that do not actively have homes. Just a thought.
I understand that. And it's not to say I don't see qualities in the people you nominated that would make them good for the council. Just trying to level it a bit. I do also like Airlia's idea of homes open during the week and Gortopia on the weekends. It provides a nice balance.
As far as homes that are not active, I think some consideration needs to be made at least initially. For example, there are some places that have active role players even if their own home isn't open as much. There are some homes, for example, that are open now and then, but no one else comes in and so they close the home. I don't think it is fair to penalize those role players and deny them representation just because people don't travel or stop in to visit.
Gorean ThunderDome: where you go in but you may never come out, settle your grievances, make trade or just disappear.
For homes that truly haven't been open in a long time, perhaps a waiting period of a week for their home to become active again is in order if they want representation on the council. I don't think making someone waiting longer than that is a good idea because the goal is trying to get more people legitimately involved and it might put them off if they have to do longer without being welcomed as a part of it. Please don't think I'm trying to make the rules either. Just discussion.
How can you expect people who cannot run their home to now run all of Gor. Nothing has worked in the past. Gor will never be as great as it once was. It will be another popularity contest with a select few trying to run everything. People like me will not get a chance because we are not in the in crowd. A lot of people here are leeches. They attach themselves with what they perceive as the people running the show. A lot of times I come online and I am like why bother with the effort anymore.
Thiery, was it you that said "Old Gor, New Gor? How about Gor? Just that." Gor was Gor. Kyri, I think there are people here willing to try, but I do understand what you're saying also. And to Judas, I sincerely apologize for what this has become today...
I nominate myself for representing the Baker's caste. I think it needs to have a mix of high caste and low caste. I have a home stone but many are away or do not come around as much. So having a representative from a home might make it a bit difficult. I say one from each caste, therefore we get a good blend. I don't know many of you all from here outside of what I had r/ped with since coming. I'm pretty neutral in knowing the pasts verse the now, and future.
Shainaa, I think that would be too difficult to do one from each caste because again we could run into the problem of people who aren't really represented because the caste set of Buzzen Gor is pretty limited, and those chosen could be all from one home. There's not nearly the diversity of castes in role play than are found in the books.
No. It wasn't me. It Was bana. She's smarter than me. She's spot on though. Gor is Gor. If this keeps up though we'll be serving the slaves and they will be lower case free.
My apologies. Good call, bana.
Perhaps you are right Kyna. Just let me know when its decided and what I can do to help. I can only offer some r/p scenerios really. I've got a pretty big imagination. I read LOTs of fictional books to keep my mind fresh with new ideas that can be incorporated into the gorean life. Good luck with this council if it happens.
You have an amazing imagination, my Friend. Even better than Thiery's..
Kyri, I doubt referring to people as leeches is the best way to inspire confidence in them to nominate you for anything. None of this is about popularity contests for anyone, but people will vote for those people who they feel would offer something to the task. If that is people that you perceive to be popular, then it will be, and if it isn't then it won't be but it isn't fair to criticise people for the choices they make. The purpose of voting is so everyone gets a chance to put forward ...
their opinion and not to have it questioned or belittled. I also agree that it should be limited to one person from each home to keep an even balance. Maybe each home who wants to participate should post their member lists and everyone gets to pick someone from each home. Those wth the most go forward. On the flip side, I hear Donald Trump is wanting to be nominated too, he wants to build a wall to keep out everyone south of Turia.
Wamph, that's an interesting idea with the member lists. But I think it should be up to each home to choose their representative.
I disagree as it takes away the vote from the people and the idea behind a council chosen by the people is that it consists of who the people feel is best to do so. But that's just My opinion on the back of a Brexit
I'm not disputing the idea of democratic process, but even here in the US we can only vote for people based on where we live by deciding who we think will do the best job for our city, district, state, or what have you. In the case of the council, I don't know that I want my representation decided for me based on voting from outside my home. It puts small homes at a disadvantage. And Brexit was a good move.
raises hand to ask a question.... um excuse me. but why can't Everyone just run their home the way they want and if they visit elsewhere follow that homes rules?